Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. The Bagbys couldn't have been happier, particularly since. For this night they were a couple once again, dancing and drinking together. Mr. BAGBY: And part of Andrew's problem was, I think, he was just too nice to say, you know, `Get the hell out of my life. His goal at first was simply to collect memories and tributes from people who were close to Bagby. I had this overwhelming feeling. Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. 1 suspect was his estranged girlfriend, Shirley Turner, also a medical doctor, who was raised in western Newfoundland and was then practicing in Iowa. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. They've retired, hang out with friends and travel a bit, David Bagby said. She called trying to get Andrew when he was here doing a rotation here in California. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. Mr David C Bagby Obituary Visitation Funeral Information "There, is no indication of a psychological disorder that would give concern about, potential harm to the public generally as her crime, while violent, was, specific in nature." Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. I didn't have. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. March 18, 2008: MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? Kurt is incredibly grateful for the good folks at MSNBC for making this arrangement happen. ', Because I know you would be worried if we disappeared for a couple of days or, MORRISON: Was she planning something? An abridged version of "Dear Zachary" will premiere on CBC Newsworld in Canada on Sunday, October 25th at 10 PM ET/PT. And Turner had said he was a, MORRISON: But there were some caveats. PDF Bail bill inspired by Bagby's murdered grandson Click HERE for ticket information. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. thing, because up until Andrew was murdered, I was a Pollyanna. (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. But on Sunday, when he drove her to the airport, Andrew made it clear to Shirley it was over for good. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. That child was Zachary, to whom the film is addressed. MORRISON: Was she taunting them, they wondered? Blu-ray: (Shears; photo of Shirley, Zachary and Shears; Shears walking), Mr. SHEARS: Suddenly everything rushes into you, and you realize that she, did murder Andrew. MORRISON: As Kurt tracked down Andrew's friends for the documentary he was making, he discovered that not a one had anything favorable to say about Shirley. David and Kate Bagby know all about the unlikely power of love funneled through rage. At least he might have asleep when she went in. September 28, 2008: You dont leave it behind. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? Creating stronger communities. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. 2023 Cond Nast. KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. Just from that, conversation, you could kind of get the sense that she didn't want Zachary, MORRISON: And for the Bagbys, Shirley issued what sounded somehow. Now that Zachary was starting to walk, he was free to make a beeline to. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. It turns out Shirley Jane Turner is pregnant. See rank. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. Mommy loves you. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. When police interviewed the hospital staff Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Well, you don't have to look far.' The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. This report aired Dateline Friday, July 23. Dr. ANDREW BAGBY: (Wedding videotape) Best man is a little bit of a poor title for these things. This documentary starts out like a love letter. Then, upon. December 4, 2008: Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. He was the whole world to them. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. It will have its television premiere on MSNBC this fall following a theatrical release that is currently in negotiations and expected to be announced in the coming weeks. Unidentified Woman #12: We won't forget their son. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. KATE: I thought, `Well, he's got to get out of this.'. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. But two months later, that would change, after Shirley appealed, again to be released on bail. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? After the shooting, according to Kate, Turner called her claiming she was trying to reach Andrew. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. He travelled across the country, and to England, to collect these reminiscences, which reveal Bagby to be a caring physician and a beloved and charismatic goofball. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." They are the opposite of Shirley Jane Turner. And as tragic as this story is, that is also where its consolation lies: that Shirley Jane Turner destroyed everything around her in an attempt to extinguish the love she was incapable of experiencing herself, and in the end she couldnt. Cpl. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. Imagine being the parents of a man who was killed and then having to ingratiate yourself to the killer in order to keep your grandchild safe. So I gave her the. MORRISON: What thought or feeling did that give you? MORRISON: What did you think that she would do, kill you? Did anyone have more friends than he? The International Film Music Critics also nominated his musical score for Best Documentary Score of 2008. MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? Believing that even where there is evil, there is also a tremendous amount of good." Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. Sharing voices. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' MORRISON: Shirley, meanwhile, seemed to be preparing for her, extradition, and perhaps she was looking for a way to exclude the Bagbys from. The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. Except, OK, sometimes not. But of course I didn't. They quit their jobs and moved from California to Newfoundland. Right? The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. Its good to see him again, hear his voice, he said of the images of Andrew. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. First their son was murdered in Pennsylvania, then their grandson in Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. MORRISON: And now that she was freed, Shirley would once again, Mr. BAGBY: We had to take him down the stairs and give him to, Shirley's friend, who happened to have a car seat. Read the DocuWeek Q&A with writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne HERE. They're like, `What do you mean?' What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. Kuenne is able to capture the true nature of love and dedication in a way I have never seen. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). All rights reserved, Click here for information on becoming a member. And the comfort they personify can be found in the fact that even in the face of Shirley Jane Turner, they not only continue, they remain good while continuing. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Maintained by: Tracy Lane He was such a good baby. It brings its own special brand of. "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. You can't tell them this over the phone. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. Oh my god. Or it's in the car. MORRISON: I never know what to think about these feelings that people get. There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. I had a son I used, (Photo of young Kate; photo of Kate and David; photo of Kate and Andrew), KATE: And then suddenly you're in the pits, and then you have to learn that, MORRISON: Two weeks after Zachary's murder, the press covered a, Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) We believe that the legal system helped her to, MORRISON: Charging the child protection authorities dropped the, ball, and that a disastrous bail system allowed a probable first-degree, (Zachary; court document; Shirley and Andrew). When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. Very, very serious. Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! They were good friends; it was he who Bagby had told about the fatal meeting with Turner beforehand. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. Such choices make for a disorienting viewing experience, especially if youre accustomed to the conventions of slicker documentaries. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). Andrew's parents say he tried, frequently, to ease out of the relationship altogether, but Shirley wouldn't buy it. a--with a hand grenade in the kitchen with the pin already pulled. Dr. Andrew David Bagby (1973-2001) - Find a Grave Memorial Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. After 2 murders, a healing process - PressReader It left me looking for the impossibility of marking the film above the highest grade available on the festival's voting ballot. (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. David bagby, left, and kate bagby, right, celebrate with their son andrew bagby at his graduation from medical school at memorial university of newfoundland in june 2000. contributed by david and kate bagby. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. RELATED:California filmmaker remasters documentary on the lives and murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. MORRISON: But Andrew did agree to meet Shirley in a nearby park. American authorities asked Canadian, authorities to send her back to the US, which would require an extradition, hearing. Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss David Bagby - IMDb KATE: People thought she was delicate, you know, and looked KATE: She couldn't kill. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. You can, just--there's nothing. Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss - Goodreads Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. 2015 - 2020. -Managed leading Egyptian companies' accounts with the firm, including in the oil and gas, financial, consumer goods, real estate and automotive sectors. Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. I sat there. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. February 24, 2009: Hello. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. It's great. In mid-December, the Bagbys talked to The Western Star about the rerelease of the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, by Kurt Kuenne. They held their breath. Cpl. How else do you represent almost virtually the same crime happening back to back despite the hindsight in between? David Bagby - Risk Manager - McKinsey & Company | LinkedIn Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. (Photo of Shirley; Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary), Mr. SHEARS: There was a conversation one time she had with me and Erica, in, regards to if something ever happened to her and she had to go to jail or. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. Specific in nature? Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. ', Mr. SIMPSON: And I told him, I said, `You know, Andrew, when I break up with somebody and put them on a plane and send them 1300 miles away,' I said, `They knock on my front door, I'm going out the back door and I'm calling the police.' (David; Kate and Zachary; Shirley and Zachary). MORRISON: The sea at midnight was endless black. Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. David and Kate Bagby must have been saints to have had to tolerate personal dealings with their only child's murderess,and basically have to groval to her to even see their precious only-ever grandchild.Yet,they did whatever they could for the sake of Zachary.Most people (myself included) would have made away with Shirley Turner the first chance MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. This marks the first time in history an MP from Newfoundland has been able to get a private member's bill through Parliament; since 2001, 2,510 Private Member's Bills have been introduced in the House of Commons, but only 23 - less than 1% - have received Royal Assent. Zachary didn't seem like. In November 2002, when, Zachary was four months old, a Canadian judge ruled that a properly instructed, jury would likely find Shirley Turner guilty and ordered her incarceration, while awaiting a decision from justice officials to surrender her to the, United States. get in there, if that's what she demanded. MORRISON: But she was allowed to go back to Newfoundland? Bagbys wondered if there might ever be an extradition hearing. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. A security guard reported hearing a. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. After Canadian mother killed herself and their only grandchild, U.S David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. Mr. and Mrs. David Bagby will be notified of the award, and may request background information on the recipient to facilitate any contact between the recipient and the Bagbys. Zachary, how's our baby today? We did have him for a little while, she said. And I saw that night her malignancy. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. decision. Andrew came to St. John's. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. He said, `The psychotic bitch. While that change felt good, David wanted more. Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbysthe story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. Kathryn Schulz, reviewing Making a Murderer recently inThe New Yorker, described howtrue-crime projects can allow for bias to masquerade as objectivity and for people (particularly victims and their families) to be reduced to plot points. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. All rights reserved. Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. They told us that they'd found the body. In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. Click HERE for ticket information. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. Shirley Turner, awaiting, extradition for murder, was out of prison on bail. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. Because she didnt know love either. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. Djing.
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