Once lasers hit the fields, the game began to change. Which it does pretty well within those limitations. Another round that was designed for the steel shooters is the 6mm BR Remington. I also shot mine with an Ultra 9 direct-thread suppressor. 1100m: This is more academic than real, but they claim 6mm ARC performs at this range (compared to the .223 and 308). This rifle originally started out as a 224 Valkyrie using their IRMT upper and NX15 lower. Velocity can be a factor, but given the same weight, recoil should be similar so I kept the weights as close as possible. Unlike the WSSM, the Hornady 6mm ARC was engineered around a long, high B.C. You never know for sure, but its not a failure out of the box like so many others. Second, it was chambered in the delightful Winchester Model 70 Featherweight, which was a major factor in the .243s huge success. It is based on the .308 Winchester case, necked down with no other change. I wont even mention primers as that is just generic across the board with any caliber at this point. Some examples include the 6mm-204 and the 6x45. The Model 70 .243 Win. Its a long-distance for any of these and conditions were anything but ideal. bullets in .243" help make the light-kicking, short Hornady 6mm ARC ballistically superior to the 308 Win., 6.8 SPC. Hornady BLACK 6mm ARC 105 Grain Boat-Tail Hollow Point Match Centerfire Rifle Ammunition, 20, BTHP Match (Save 10%) $34.99 $1.75/Round. The 6.5 Grendel was made by modifying the 220 Russian parent case. If you have any doubt how well Hornady does this look no further than the 6.5 Creedmoor. And its performance is effective with a variety of bullets. Shop 6.5 Grendel Ammo the problem is your average guy wants to shoot a long ways, they don't get the fast and light principles. It depends on numerous factors, including ammunition used, barrel used, and the shooter's skill, but in general, 6mm ARC is a more precise cartridge. However, the 6mm ARC will service the military and civilian shooters more often in AR-15-type rifles, meaning barrel lengths will likely be closer to 18 inches. There is nothing more competitve than a 6BR Norma when the wind is consistent or low. Will it become my 1000 yards rifle, maybe, it is working against the 224V and the jury is still out and will be until I get my hands on their TAP round, Ill keep you posted. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. L. to R. are 223 Rem., 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 Rem. At 400 yards, it has an average bullet drop of 22.2 inches. Barrel-length is an issue. It will be interesting if they chamber this in micro-action bolt carbines like the Grendel has been. If this rifle is any indication all it took was a barrel, bolt, and magazine swap. Not a contest. | all4shooters, Hornady's NEW 6mm ARC & Odin Work's Barrels - www.gunsamerica.com, gununiversity.com | 6mm ARC Released / Hands-On Testing and Comparisons, by Ryan Cleckner 3 June 2020, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=6mm_ARC&oldid=1137943385, Articles with unsourced statements from July 2020, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2021, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 05:30. LMT shot softer, exhibited a tank-like build, and proved great to shoot. [5] WARNING: The load development techniques and load data shown in this video are experimental and are for DEMONSTRATION PURPOSES ONLY. Hornady launched the 6mm ARC with three factory loads: a 103-grain ELD-X Precision Hunter at an advertised 2,800 fps, 105-grain BTHP Hornady Black at an advertised 2,750 fps and the 108-grain ELD-Match load at a stated 2,750 fps. Outside a few very special special units, the military gets whats issued. In a 10-mph crosswind the 6mm ARC 108-grain bullet drifts 10.9 inches at 400 yards. Did the 6 ARC outperform the .223? It is chambered in many very good and some very inexpensive rifles, which have helped make it the hit that it is. I tried the hand loaded 27 grain Varget loads and they shot a pleasantly surprising .5 and .52 MOA group at 100 yards. pavementends Junior Member. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. The 6 ARC proved at 2720 fps with a Density Altitude of 8800 feet. Based on my best estimation, my H-4896 108 ELD-M load would produce approximately 2,754 FPS in a 24 bolt-action rifle. H4895 with 5-shot groups from the high .5s to 1.0 MOA. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? Hornady Precision Hunter 6mm ARC 103 Grain Jacketed Soft Point Centerfire Rifle Ammunition, 20, SBT (Save 10%) $2.15/Round. Or hunting? However, I must confess that Hornadys factory loads shoot so well that the reloader is hard-pressed to better them. Mag. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. If I was gonna go to a 6mm cartridge I would either do 6x47lapua because I already brass and all I need is a smaller neck bushing, or I would go all in on 6br. 1,461. HunterMann Well-Known Member LRH Team Member Joined Jan 18, 2021 The first groups were the 6.5 Grendel cases that I modified for the 6mm ARC. As much as I like shooting my 6 Creedmoor, every builder outside custom shops tells me it is a complete PITA to get to work on a large scale using factory ammunition, a real consideration. The 24 Nosler is a terrific performer, so dont let its small size fool you. It was the wildcatters who brought it back to life by fiddling with a couple of popular designs. There you have it. Those held a water weight of 34.74 grains with a SD of .14 grains. The 6.5 Grendel products deliver about 25.3 inches of drop at 400 yards when the rifle is zeroed to 200 yards. Cleaned it all but twice missing one cold shot at this range. NB / Canada. 6 ARC Testing To set up a viable 6mm ARC vs. these other calibers, I set 100-meter zeros, then confirmed at 1100 meters providing a proven hold at range. can exceed it by 500 fps and the 240 Weatherby by 600 fps. All barrels will be . Joined: Jun 2002. Five more for effect as fast as I could get back on target ended the drill. The 6.5 Creedmoor shoots 6.5mm/.264 class projectiles while the 6mm Creedmoor is necked down to shoot 6mm/.243. and 6mm Rem., but it pushes them a little faster. VLD, Hornady 108-gr. Each rifle ships with one 10-round magazine. The ballistics look great. The 6mm Creedmoor and it's smaller siblings like the 6mm Dasher, BR . Retested today with 26.3 grs. But I wanted to get some real-world results with my new CMMG Endeavor 300 6mm ARC AR-15 published as soon as I could, and therefore embarked on an exciting journey. has not been on game, some loads stand out. The factory 105s shot at 2662 FPS with an SD of 11 as measured by a Labrador. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Consider the 7mm, 300, 338, and 375 Remington Ultra Magnums. It's no surprise Hornady chose a 6mm bullet, either. August 14, 2022. Lapua brass is easy to find, however the bullet (105 Hybrid) and powder (Varget/H4895) most run will be tough to find. The 6mm GT easily attains more than 3,000 fps. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. Five shot rapid-fire was not bad. That doesnt mean others in that community or those in contact with them may not want 6mm ARC someday, or even give it a try sooner than later. Benchrest (BR) shooters will go to almost any length to shave 0.001 inch off of their aggregate average, and there is a diverse assemblage of 6mm wildcat rounds for BR shooters. I am a much better bolt gun shooter than AR shooter. That flattens trajectories somewhat and applies a bit more punch to the game. The faster a bullet leaves the barrel, the farther it flies before hitting the ground, the less it deflects in crosswinds, and the more energy it carries when impacting the target. If you are looking for 6mm ARC ammunition, components, or parts/gear, check out the following: Dont miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make sure youre subscribed! Factory match rounds start at 155 grains and go up. Should I consider another upper? If the wind is changing from 4 -7 miles an hour (and it ususally is), you will have more trouble bracketing or holding the 6BR in the 10 or X ring. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. wasnt the only knife in the drawer, even if it was the sharpest one. Winchesters strategy for the .243 was twofold and well thought out. Then theres Hornadys new 300 PRC, Weatherbys 6.5-300 Weatherby, and several more modern speed demons. Posts: 38 Threads: 10 Joined: Aug 2020 #1. What does the 6 ARC do that the 6 BR REM hasn't been doing for over 50 years? This means that during a 1,200-yard flight to the target, gravity and wind will pull and push on the 6 mm ARC between one- and three-tenths . It doesn't need a .308 sized action to work. To set up a viable 6mm ARC vs. these other calibers, I set 100-meter zeros, then confirmed at 1100 meters providing a proven hold at range. VLD Match. The IRMT upper locks the barrel in place with unparalleled rigidity. I hired a Mossberg in 243 Winchester to take this multi-tined TX Hill Country whitetail with a single shot. Cal December 9, 2018 Leave a comment. Accuracy was good, with one group I captured on camera (see video) measuring 0.750: I decided to see how fast a 95 grain bullet could be propelled by the 6mm ARC, so I turned to some 6mm Berger Classic Hunter bullets I had on hand, and Ramshot TAC powder. While the .243 Win. The 6mm GT, left, seen next to another precision cartridge, the 6mm ARC. Just pouring powder in and checking it by eye. [citation needed]. Hey Gavin and fellow Ultimate Reloader Fans: I had a chance to do more testing today as I finally received some Hornady factory 105 grain Black ammunition. with a collective yawn and flocked to the equally new and elegant Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in .243 Win. He gave it a 32-degree shoulder and called it the .243 Rock Chucker.. Because it's been around longer there are many, many more factory loads . In an effort to salvage the .244 Rem., in 1963, Remington changed the name of the round to 6mm Remington and the barrel twist rate to 1:9 inches. Already offering hunting, practice, and LE (TAP) rounds, the 6mm ARC starts with a firm leg up and should not be discounted without regard to why it was developed. is One Gun To Rule Them All, New 270 Cartridges Challenge 6.5s and 7mms. Its all about the lack of correlation between mapping out rounds on a computer and sending them downrange at targets measured in yards. 6.5 Grendel The 6mm ARC delivers comparable performance from a wider assortment of bullets, making it a more versatile choice. Contact ultimate reloader by clicking here. An eighteen-inch barrel, maybe even a. I also confirmed velocity for existing conditions. : 2.095" G1 B.C. It has had moderate success in various target venues. 6.5 Grendel vs. 6mm ARC Ballistics. Some smaller capacity, low velocity rounds are tailored for sub-sonic, low-report firing for clandestine military engagements. Above: 6mm ARC case capacity measured 33.96 grains H2O. But at the same time were seeing the 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 Grendel; the 6.8 Rem. You can get the 6XC brass in Norma which is very good. . Image shows 243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, 240 Weatherby Magnum, older and faster than the Hornady 6mm ARC. The short reality is somewhat different. was necked up to 6mm and called the 6x47. That wont change and logistically the 6 ARC is still at baby steps. 22420 C.O.L. The hardest thing about ladder testing for the 6 BR is deciding which load is the best because they are so good. bullets straight and seated above the powder reservoir. How about the 26, 27, 28, and 30 Noslers? The .223 does have advantages, though. Sort by. So what about Hornadys published 2,750 fps number for the 108 grain ELD-M bullets in 6mm ARC? As the dust settled and reality set in this dissipated a bit. (In the 1960s, Speer made a 105-grain RN just for the .244 Rem.) ELD (l.) makes for an excellent long-range target round, while the 103-gr. I had three high capacity magazines using white followers, two 17 rounders with green followers. Sneak Peek of Bryan Litz's New Book: Volume III of Modern Advancements in Long Range Shooting. That doesnt take anything away from what the 6 ARC does and the companies who developed it. The strings netted three or four out of five, misses were off the edge. The .222 Remington, introduced in 1950, was top dog in benchrest circles until the advent of the PPCs, after which, the 6mm PPC was used by virtually all serious benchrest competitors. Mid-20th Century 24-calibers shoot much faster than the new Hornady 6mm ARC, but are they ballistically better? While this excellent cartridge was almost doomed at birth, it has hung on, to the chagrin of deer, prairie goats, coyotes, and rock chucks everywhere. Eight reasons to embrace the Hornady 6mm ARC and other low-velocity cartridges. Advantage, magnum. Brought out by Hornady just a few months ago, this moderate-sized round is based on the 6.5 Grendel and shares similar rim and body dimensions. This increased size means the 243 has a case capacity of 53-54.8 gr H2O. The 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge (6 ARC) by Hornady is a new cartridge that can fire a sleek 6mm (.243) caliber projectile around 2,700 fps with minimal recoil and the 6mm ARC is short enough to fit within the dimensions of a standard AR-15 magazine and it performs very well out of an AR-15 with an 18 inch barrel (what we tested). GD. There aren't any markings on the barrel, but it was advertised as being a 6 BR REM and the reloads that came with it seemed to chamber fine when the barrel was still attached to the action. You could get hits at 900 meters with all of them, 5 shot strings were easiest with the Creedmoors and they ruled at 1100 meters. The original 6 mm/.244 Rem is basically the .257 Roberts/7x57 case necked down, while the 6 mm BR Rem/Norma (only slightly different case specs between them) are much shorter cases. Thanks Find. bullets. I doubt that the book on the Great 6mm cartridges is closed, and future developments may add new chapters, to the delight of many shooters. Guns & Ammo's first sample rifle chambered in 6mm ARC was a Ruger AR-556 MPR with an 18-inch barrel. The 6mm ARC's more efficient projectiles with their high BCs provides superior exterior ballistics with noticeably less wind drift, higher retained velocity and greater retained energy. They built these rifles with great attention to detail. Commercial 6mm ARC offerings will feature bullets selected to deliver ideal performance for hunting, match shooting and personal protection applications. Like the grendel though you probably don't want to run high pressures on an ar bolt though. [9] The 6mm ARC utilizes the same bolt head size as the 6.5mm Grendel, and 6.5mm Grendel-compatible AR-pattern box magazines have also been used successfully with the 6mm ARC. A new 100-grain factory deer load completed the rounds metamorphosis. No math test required. JavaScript is disabled. Important to note that Quickload reports the chamber pressure using the combination of components above is 3900 PSI over SAAMI spec and is therefore a dangerous load that should not be used. The 6mm ARC cartridge is a new SAAMI-spec cartridge based on the 6.5 Grendel case necked down for 6mm bullets, with the shoulder moved back 0.030. Even with the cost of the Proof Research barrel it doable. Shots are on 12 round steel and 22 x 16 silhouette steel at 600 and 1100 meters. I followed up with three at 300 meters and a 600 Meter shot on a 22 x 16 silhouette steel. (Ret.) In simple terms, its essentially a 6mm Grendel with the Creedmoor treatment, alterations to the shoulder and casing for better feeding, more consistency, and ease of mass production. Using a LabRadar chronograph to measure velocities, we saw an average of . Its a 6mm cartridge similar to 6.5 Grendel, built for the AR-15 platform, Its optimized for bullets in the 103 grain 110 grain range, Its got more velocity and less recoil compared to 6.5 Grendel, It shares the same parent case with 6.5 Grendel: The 220 Russian, Its capable of launching a 6mm 108 grain projectile approximately 2800 FPS from a 24 barrel, BARREL: 20, 1:7.5 twist, 6mm ARC, MT 416SS, SBN, MUZZLE: MUZZLE: SV Brake, threaded 5/8-24, GAS PORT LOCATION: Rifle Length with SLR Adjustable Gas Block, RECEIVER: Forged 7075-T6 AL M4 type upper, AR15 type lower, FINISH: Cerakote Receivers and Hand Guard, Find a cartridge similar to 6mm ARC thats supported in the, Determine the 6mm ARC case capacity for my lot of brass (H2O method), Adjust Quickload model for case capacity and any other factors, Model loads looking at pressures and velocities (using 6mm PPC load data as a backup sanity check), It shares the same parent case with 6mm ARC (the 220 Russian), Its case capacity is very close (1.9 grains of H2O different), Likely in reference to a 24-ish test barrel, No AR gas system present to reduce velocity, Start with observed 20 velocity data for my H-4895 load (2,631 FPS), Look at the QuickLoad projected velocity difference between a 20 and 24 barrel, Add the velocity difference to the actual measured velocity, Account for ~1.18% reduction in velocity (calculated from my 224 Valkyrie AR-Bolt side by side testing) due to the AR-15 gas system, I had limited components available to test, results could get better from here (more velocity with less pressure), These loads may be hotter than what will function reliably in a typical AR-15 (and may not be safe), I will follow up with testing of Hornadys factory ammunition with the 108 grain ELD-M bullet. Read on! Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information on this website. Supporter. This is exactly what we would expect. Then the AR-15 platform exploded and the game changed some more. Quickload can be frustrating when there is more than 10 FPS difference between calculated and measured MV. ELD-X . V-MAX Item No. H2O, and a 6mm BR, around 39.0 gr. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They have 10 solid options ranging in weight from 90 to 110 grains. SPC, 350 Win. There is a lot of hoped for or imagined history related to the 22 BR and 6 BR cartridges. First, the cartridge was designed for dual purposes: deer hunting and varmint hunting. Tests varied from 100-1100 meters (110-1200 yards, for the metrically challenged). It's also legal for deer hunting in more States and arguably more effective. 6mm ARC The newest 6mm factory round is the recently announced 6mm ARC (Advanced Rifle Cartridge). Shooters needed cartridges that would fit these increasingly popular, super-short actions. Photo shows high B.C. That will undoubtedly change, but not overnight. After forming some cases I shot Berger 105 hybrid targets over 27.5 grs. When youre shooting dozens and dozens of rounds in a single competition, barrel life matters. This data and these techniques can not be assumed to be safe. Dr. I have the 6 ARC and getting great results of .250 groups when I do my part. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Comparing 6mm ARC to 6mm CR is is apples and oranges again. This made sense. With more case capacity, the 6mm BR can drive the heavier, higher BC bullets needed at long distance. was not, and the .243 Win. When using shorter barrels, which are common on gas-guns, the difference will be even more pronounced. Her 6mm Creedmoor rifle is light and handy and shoots like a house afire, and recoil and muzzle blast are modest. Photo Courtesy Berger Bullets. CMMG MK47 Banshee Review 25 Hogs Plus Coyotes Helped the Research, Top 5 Braced Pistols for Hog Hunting in 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykTfyrMiXps, Remington at Gunsite! I did not try to shoot past 900 today because of limited ammo and Applied Balistics indicates that at 2550 FPS MV these 108s are going transsonic just past 900 and I didnt want to waste the last few shots. Will it be my go-to bang away rifle, not likely. Team Hornaday is the master, bar none. ZevTech, 16 Proof Research .223 Wylde barrel, Leupold Optics Mark 6, 3-18 with a David Tubb DTR reticle and Black Hills 77 Grain TMK. It may not display this or other websites correctly. All Rights Reserved, Borden's 7mm Rem. The handguard bolts to the upper eliminating impact shifts when setting the bi-pod or locking into a barricade or obstacle. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? Your email address will not be published. Image shows 6.5 Grendel cartridge, parent case of the 6mm ARC. I must note here how hard it hit. From an LE perspective, changing calibers is like pulling teeth on a ticked off Grizzley, very low rate of success and its hard to beat a .223 for patrol. Jeff, I would have it fluted well to reduce weight and chop +/- 20" - with 95 BTs, it will be a deer slayer, varmint bullets for said creatures. if you are going to reload for it and want to shoot light bullets. The 6mm ARC is a brand new cartridge that Hornady designed to fit into a standard AR-15. I therefore feel that Hornadys claimed performance data is feasible. Required fields are marked *. In most woods that I was hunting in at that time, I couldn't . There is no reason that it shouldn't, it is basically a blown out 6mm PPC which is probably the gold standard for accurate cartridges. Maximum Cartridge Overall Length is 2.26. It's wearing a, Finally, we started seeing heavy, high B.C., very low drag bullets that improved trajectories by minimizing drag and conserving energy. 1,226. 6 BR REM, not 6.5. Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for both varmint and deer hunting and target shooting. Its easy to understand why its such an excellent performer. However, after completely missing five consecutive bucks with my 6mm, I decided that I needed to hunt with that Remington 6mm like I hunted with my 2-3/4 inch 12 gauge. The 6 ARC can be built on mini actions such as the CZ 527, Howa Mini, Sako AI. You'll need a new barrel, bolt, and mags. Maybe in a rural area where ranges stretch out, but movement here will be a rarity. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. And it made the new round available in the very attractive and accurate Model 700. Using already available magazines, bolts and the AR15 platform is a big plus. You won't have to fiddle with necking/reforming in 6XC. Messages. Wildcatters have had a field day with the 6mms, and the list of their creations is long. Interestingly enough, my history with 6mm rounds began with the 6mm Remington. Ammo capacity is about the same, 20 rounds with the longer Grendel mags. bullets for the Hornady 6mm ARC. 6mm ARC vs 6mm BR. Whats more: Its already SAAMI approved! Editors Note: Looking for a deeper dive on the 6.5 Grendel vs. 6mm ARC? There are 6ARC bolt guns out there. The 6mm ARC is a 5.56-platform compatible cartridge, similar to the 6.5 Grendel. Velocity is 2,827 fps, and out of my Browning A-bolt II, it groups into 1.10 inches. In my next story Ill be deep-diving on the CMMG Endeavor 20 6mm ARC AR-15, and will be stretching its legs to greater distances. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? GD. Hunting inside 300 meters the 300 HAMR rules that realm. And just in case some hunter wanted to knock off a deer with his .244 rifle, the company also offered a 90-grain loading. My wife has a Ruger American in 6mm Creedmoor, and it is the only round that has been able to pry her away from her beloved .270 Winchester. H-4895 is closer to the 6.5 Grendel sweet spot, so I thought it would be worth a try. I previously tested them in other calibers. Accuracy was up to par, and shooters took to the rifle-cartridge combo like a duck, well, you know. Hold for elevation never changed, 4 mils at the top garnered hits at from 4.2-4.7 mils each time, misses were generally wind. Our real questions are (A) What is the 6 ARC, (B) What does it do, and (C) is it doing something better than what you already own and love? The 6mm ARC is a more aerodynamic bullet than the 6.5 Grendel. and puts more impact splash on steel plates than any .224 rounds. case necked up, made especially for ARs. I'm thinking most, if not all of these are bolt actions, but there are plenty of AR rifles ready to chew up a few thousand 6mm ARC rounds for you. As the heaviest rifle tested recoil with the LMT Mars-H in 6.5CM was about the same as the Zev in .223 Wylde, the next best performer for groups. Some tactics never die, they just get regenerated. SuperCub. 6mmBR is not the easy button it is the easiest button. These developments are interesting, and the supreme accuracy achieved by several of the wildcat cartridges make them worthy of mention here. This is fortuitous, as it is a delight to reload and seems to like just about all the bullets Ive tried in it. Larue Tactical two-stage, small parts are Seekins, the stock is an LMT. Here I am shooting a Smith & Wesson M&P chambered 5.56x45mm. It is a 6 BR REM barrel that came off a rifle that I bought for the Remington 600 donor action. Designed to meet the needs of the worlds toughest critics, the 6mm ARC utilizes efficient, high-BC bullets to deliver unprecedented performance from the AR-15 platform. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. ZEV cleaned house using the David Tubb DTR reticle. If you already have an AR chambered in 6.5 Grendel, the ONLY thing you need to change is the barrel.
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